Editor’s note: This week, we had the opportunity to sit down with Sheryl Page, the (relatively new) National Community Wildfire Mitigation Program Manager to learn more about her, the challenges she sees, her vision for wildfire adaptation across the country and the advice she wishes she’d been given when starting out. We interviewed Sheryl’s predecessor, Pam Leschak, back in 2016 (you can read that interview here if you missed it!).
Please tell us a little about yourself!
Sheryl: I’ve been with the USDA Forest Service for over 20 years! Most of my time with the Forest Service has been in fire management. My degree is in Forestry with a concentration in Fire Science. Once I graduated from school, I went right into the Forest Service. I started on a timber crew and haven’t looked back! My current position is the National Community Wildfire Mitigation Program Manager.
Personally, I’ve been married 20 years to my amazing husband and we have three amazing, very active kids. I was born and raised in Colorado and I am still very happy to call Colorado home even though I do work remotely for our national office in Washington, D.C.
What led you to wildfire adaptation work?
Sheryl: I grew up spending a lot of time outdoors. I was taught to respect the land and be a good steward; that was really ingrained in me. That is probably why I studied Forestry. College is where I really developed my interest about how we live with fire.
During that time, I volunteered with the Colorado Division of Wildlife. As a volunteer, I was exposed to prescribed fire and I was hooked. There is nothing quite like prescribed fire. It is such a powerful tool. I loved it. When I later got into fire management as part of an interagency hot-shot crew, we were able to complete some prescribed fire work. When we were on incidents, as well as completing burnouts in areas, it was amazing to see what I had learned in college being applied in the field.
Later on in my career, I worked in cooperative fire protection programs and I became more active in fire adaptation work. We did a lot of field visits; visiting various communities and working with a variety of partners really allowed me to see the need to further fire adaptation work. I saw firsthand how important fire adaptation was in both natural and human communities.
What are you most excited to tackle in your new role?
Sheryl: I am most excited about taking a strategic look at the work we’re doing, and can be doing, in wildfire mitigation. I am lucky because my predecessor, Pam Leschak, laid most of the foundation. Now, I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to take this program into the future. I feel like we have a real opportunity to take a step back and examine our work strategically to see where we want to be going and how we best accomplish our vision. It’s an exciting time to be working in our field. There are so many opportunities presenting themselves!
What do you see as the largest challenge facing us (those working in wildfire preparedness, mitigation and recovery)?
Sheryl: I guess for me, the biggest challenge we face is trying to balance all that needs to be done. There is just so much. We have natural systems that are off-kilter due to past management policies. We are dealing with changing climates. We have people living in, and building in, many of these areas that are out of sync with fire. We are trying to keep these communities safe while also trying to balance the needs of our natural systems so they can maintain key processes such as wildfire. There is no “silver bullet” solution; we are trying to balance solutions that work with each other and not against each other.
What is your vision for fire adaptation across the country? Where do you see us, as a community of practitioners, headed in the next 20 years?
Sheryl: Speaking personally, I really would like to see fire adaptation be looked at as a way of life that we as a nation need to strive toward. I know that is a very lofty vision, but I really think that is what would allow us to be resilient. It is going to take everyone working together to break down barriers and look at innovative solutions. We just can’t do it in silos. That is why I think it is important to look at this work from a strategic and collaborative perspective. As a nation, we need to be looking at fire adaptation and striving for resilience.
If we are really going after that sort of generational change, we have to constantly ask ourselves “Where do we think we are headed? How do we get closer to, as a nation, living with wildfire?”
And a community of practitioners over the next 10 to 20 years, I see us making progress toward how we all work together more strategically. We can’t all take on the whole elephant, and sometimes it seems like we are trying to do that! That can bring up a lot of frustration that we aren’t moving forward. I see us, as a group of practitioners, realizing that we are not alone in this work and that there are others out there that are truly wanting to help. I see us solidifying our networks and the partners that we work with. For me, I see that giving us the bandwidth to deal with the challenges that face us now and those that we will face in the future.
What advice would you give to people working in fire adaptation?
Sheryl: I think it important to go back to the idea that we are not alone in this work. There are so many others out there that are really willing to help. One good example is the work being done on the National Wildfire Coordinating Group Wildland-Urban Interface Mitigation Committee. All of the committee members have different strengths and these different groups and agencies come together and tackle issues that come up.
For folks that are starting out in this field it can seem overwhelming. The advice I wish I had going into this work is the idea that you are not alone. There are others who are going through the same thing and have the same struggles. Some of those people have made it through and they can help you navigate through all of these big challenges that we are all facing.
When you look at this as a whole, this all ties into why you, as the Fire Adapted Communities Learning Network, are established. To me, it is key having that ability for these groups across the nation to to be able to say “Okay, we are struggling with this and we just can’t seem to overcome it,” and there is always someone out there who can say “Oh my gosh, we are going through that right now. Here are some of the pitfalls and things to avoid.” Being able to reach out to others is comforting but is also empowering. You end up more empowered to tackle those issues and problems that are out there.
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Thanks Sheryl for your vision and partnership over the years. That “colleague” is Molly Mowery, another notable wildfire mitigation professional who has also been featured in past FAC Net blogs.
Thanks Sheryl for all you do! So happy to be working with you – and excited for the future of fire adaptation.
Great perspective from someone at the national level who has the background and experience needed to enact effective change.
Key takeaways:
“There is no “silver bullet” solution; we are trying to balance solutions that work with each other and not against each other.”
COMMENT: People need to not only realize, but fully grasp this truth.
“It is going to take everyone working together to break down barriers and look at innovative solutions. We just can’t do it in silos. That is why I think it is important to look at this work from a strategic and collaborative perspective.”
COMMENT: ‘Check your ego at the door’ should be the first requirement for anyone looking to be involved in wildfire mitigation. Just as there’s no silver bullet solution, there’s no one who has all the answers.
Hello Sheryl:
Please allow me to introduce myself: My name is Roy Pike and I served the State of California with 34 years of firefighting, as a fire captain and battalion chief in the counties of CDF Region Five where I was the coordinator for prescribed fire in that region, to a Division Chief in charge of a 120 firefighter inmates managing fire defense construction (fuel breaks in the Central Sierra Nevada Mountains) and fire defense improvements in Mendocino County on the Jackson State Forest (California’s largest state forest) fire prevention (Deputy Chief for Northern California CDF –now CALFIRE, resulting in apprehension brought to justice more than eight serial arsonists within the California State Responsibility Areas (SRA). After retiring from CDF, I became a Professor if Fire Prevention and Suppression at a California Community College for 14 years. Where I added to my fire program at said community college, the identification and mitigation of pyrophytes with respect to the chaparral (brush) and its appurtenant fast moving and extremely dangerous wildland fires in the high deserts, low altitude coastal mountains as well as the Sierra and Cascades, including the southern California mountains. As a point of fact, using the Oakland Hills-Tunnel Fire of 1991, I discovered that it was the imported pyrophytes ( Junipers, a native of the high Arizona Desert that are like open cans of gasoline when dormant in the summer. The Granite Hotshots were killed primarily of the burning Juniper that surrounded them; Sargent Cypress, Monterey Pine and Eucalyptus trees.
My contribution would be pyrophyte plants, not a silver bullet, to share with you (et al) what I discovered and how I recommended mitigation measures used to manage them.
Pyrophyte Plants:
• What is a Pyrophyte Plant? What makes them so dangerous to people living among them?
Pyrophytes are as the name implies: pyro = fire + phyte = plant = a fire loving plant.
“A seemingly fire loving species that teams with other species to make up the millions of acres of the Chaparral in California that can quickly be engulfed by a wildfire. They are the fastest species of brush and trees to burn completely at least on the surface and the first to propagate and regenerate after a wildfire. This gives them a head start on other non-pyrophyte species in the rush to shade out and out-compete the rush in all plant communities.
Pyrophytes are often called, “Firefighter Killers” because they burn so fast that a firefighter cannot outrun them. Among some of the more notorious Firefighter Deaths directly attributed burning pyrophyte fuels are:
. . . The Rattlesnake Fire on the Mendocino NF Elk Creek in 1953.
15 Firefighters Killed Primary Pyrophyte: chamise
. . . The Inaja Fire in San Diego County in 1956.
11 Inmate Firefighters Killed Primary Pyrophyte: Ceanothus sp.
. . . The Loop Fire in Los Angeles County near San Fernando Valley in 1966.
12 USFS Hot Shots Killed Primary Pyrophyte: Mixed-Ceanothus & chamise +
The Rattlesnake Fire of 1953 that Killed 15 Firefighters.
Predominate Pyrophyte Plants that Killed the Firefighters
Chamise
PYROPHYTE PLANTS: Highly flammable and dangerous Pyrophyte
Most Dangerous Pyrophyte Plants Around Your Home: Do not plant within the 100’zone around your home. Wildfires also have these pyrophyes as fuel. Pyrophyte
Juniper Pyrophyte
Pyrophyte
Juniper : Native of the high Arizona Desert like open cans of gasoline when dormant in the summer. The Granite Hotshots were killed primarily of the burning Juniper that surrounded them.
Pine Trees: Of all sub-species and sizes. Their pitch is very flammable Pyrophyte Cypress: Of all subspecies and sizes. Very Flammable due to esters, and other flammable gases in their leaflets. Pyrophyte
Bamboo: After a short drying period. Very Flammable-hollow stems carry flammable gases Pyrophyte
Bamboo Forest: Highly flammable. Pyrophytes
Ceanothus Family Blue Blossom species Pyrophytes Ceanothus Family
Mountain Mahogony Species. Extreme flammability. Ceanothus Family: Buckwheat species Pyrophytes
Pampas Grass: Highly flammable Pyrophyte
Annual Dry Grasses
Annual Dry Grasses = The Great Carrier of FIRE. Pyrophyte that burns in sheets of flame if driven by the wind.
Eucalyptus: All species and sub-species. Oil in leaves is highly flammable Pyrophyte
Pyrophye: Primary culprit to the disaster of the Oakland Hills Fire of 1991.